{"id":335,"date":"2018-10-22T08:47:21","date_gmt":"2018-10-22T08:47:21","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.codemotion.com\/magazine\/meet-christian-heilmann-a-living-legend-of-the-it-industry\/"},"modified":"2020-07-22T11:21:39","modified_gmt":"2020-07-22T09:21:39","slug":"meet-christian-heilmann-a-living-legend-of-the-it-industry","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.codemotion.com\/magazine\/frontend\/web-developer\/meet-christian-heilmann-a-living-legend-of-the-it-industry\/","title":{"rendered":"Meet Christian Heilmann, a living legend of the IT industry."},"content":{"rendered":"<p><span class=\"firstcharacter\">C<\/span>hristian Heilmann is a legend of the IT industry. After spending more than 20 years to make the web work and thrive at <strong>Yahoo<\/strong>, <strong>Mozilla<\/strong> and now in <strong>Microsoft<\/strong>, he is now considered one of the most influential technology advocates. He has written several books on <span id=\"urn:batch-analysis-440a1735-60a7-4527-b6e1-7f6fd4a5c0f9\" class=\"textannotation disambiguated wl-no-link wl-creative work\" itemid=\"http:\/\/data.wordlift.io\/wl01770\/entity\/javascript\">JavaScript<\/span> and the Developer Evangelism handbook.<\/p>\n<h2>Christian, you are well-renowned as one of the most influential advocates in the IT industry. When did you discover your aptitude and interest in IT and how did you develop this passion into a career?<\/h2>\n<p>I always loved computers as a kid. And then friends of mine got computers and computer games and I was really bad playing them, so I basically analysed the games to see how I could cheat!<\/p>\n<p>It started to become a real career later on when I was a radio journalist and discovered the <span id=\"urn:batch-analysis-a29fed62-6561-4937-936b-d1ed55c3affe\" class=\"textannotation disambiguated wl-no-link wl-other\" itemid=\"http:\/\/data.wordlift.io\/wl01770\/entity\/internet\">internet<\/span> around 1996\/97 and realised I could get information faster than my colleagues!<\/p>\n<p>I left my <span id=\"urn:batch-analysis-d3436ae9-a456-459e-8131-58bde4a1ebd2\" class=\"textannotation disambiguated wl-no-link wl-other\" itemid=\"http:\/\/data.wordlift.io\/wl01770\/entity\/job\">job<\/span> at the radio station and started building websites and teaching myself <span id=\"urn:batch-analysis-4c5920c1-c617-4398-83d2-75b1abbe01b7\" class=\"textannotation disambiguated wl-no-link wl-other\" itemid=\"http:\/\/data.wordlift.io\/wl01770\/entity\/html\">HTML<\/span> and that\u2019s when my career started \u2013 I got hired by a large <span id=\"urn:batch-analysis-790a5599-3f7b-4bd5-8d6f-5d1ff1016a6a\" class=\"textannotation disambiguated wl-no-link wl-other\" itemid=\"http:\/\/data.wordlift.io\/wl01770\/entity\/ember_company\">company<\/span> in Germany. I\u2019ve always been fascinated by computers but I was never too excited about setting up a <span id=\"urn:batch-analysis-41cfdb48-cfab-4136-9be2-b99e50f75ef6\" class=\"textannotation disambiguated wl-no-link wl-other\" itemid=\"http:\/\/data.wordlift.io\/wl01770\/entity\/table_database\">database<\/span> in a perfect format, I was much more excited about building a human \/ computer interface with the technologies at hand.<\/p>\n<h2>You\u2019ve written many books on JavaScript. As you said, JavaScript isn\u2019t writing a few lines of code to make the web cooler, it\u2019s about becoming a platform for development. What\u2019s the actual potential of JavaScript these days?<\/h2>\n<p>It\u2019s the fastest-growing language. It\u2019s quite interesting because when I started using it, it was just toy language for doing special effects on the <span id=\"urn:batch-analysis-40f6cea7-894c-493d-93a0-b771d466043d\" class=\"textannotation disambiguated wl-no-link wl-other\" itemid=\"http:\/\/data.wordlift.io\/wl01770\/entity\/internet\">internet<\/span>. Nowadays you can build every solution in <span id=\"urn:batch-analysis-c394bcf0-8931-43e7-9968-4accbcbe48e3\" class=\"textannotation disambiguated wl-no-link wl-creative work\" itemid=\"http:\/\/data.wordlift.io\/wl01770\/entity\/javascript\">JavaScript<\/span>. That was interesting because the language itself was not architected to be that big; it was not the language that was meant for these kinds of things.<\/p>\n<p><span id=\"urn:batch-analysis-6c4e1574-7a47-4bd9-a3d4-06b40f5d6ba4\" class=\"textannotation disambiguated wl-no-link wl-creative work\" itemid=\"http:\/\/data.wordlift.io\/wl01770\/entity\/javascript\">JavaScript<\/span> grew so fast that everybody could play with it but we\u2019re now at a place where so many things depend on it and we have to make sure we find a way to make it maintainable and actually make it understandable.<\/p>\n<h2>Straightforward thinking, Artificial Intelligence and Machine Learning are meant to be the next evolution of computing. How do you think they will be able to change the human\/machine interaction?<\/h2>\n<p>I think the biggest problem with AI is the hype around it.<br \/>\nWe\u2019re at a stage where we\u2019re at the Star Trek-level technologies. I think it\u2019s great that people are not afraid of computers anymore. But on the other hand, I think it\u2019s very dangerous the amount of information we\u2019re giving away for free or unwillingly or unknowingly and we don\u2019t know what people are doing with it or how long it gets retained. We need a lot more openness and transparency on where the information goes.<br \/>\nWe need to make sure that AI helps the whole of humankind and not necessarily only a few people to get richer. It\u2019s a given that AI will take over, or <span id=\"urn:batch-analysis-02f10109-e007-4d20-be3f-f76d1b6c8429\" class=\"textannotation disambiguated wl-no-link wl-other\" itemid=\"http:\/\/data.wordlift.io\/wl01770\/entity\/machine_learning\">machine learning<\/span> will take over the IT space and the world around us.<\/p>\n<h2>The JavaScript Community grew a lot in the last few years. What is the role of the community for a senior as well as a junior developer?<\/h2>\n<p>I think junior developers have a good opportunity right now to hit the ground running. Our tooling is so wonderful compared to when I started with <span id=\"urn:batch-analysis-6c34350f-6219-4f88-93d4-9e432566cda1\" class=\"textannotation disambiguated wl-no-link wl-creative work\" itemid=\"http:\/\/data.wordlift.io\/wl01770\/entity\/javascript\">JavaScript<\/span>. You have editors that actually teach you how to write the language while you\u2019re writing it, much like in Word when you write something wrong and you get a red squiggle under it. So for junior developers a very important thing is to embrace the technologies that we have out there and also become part of the <span id=\"urn:batch-analysis-06121738-3211-44fc-b558-edaa2588c5f8\" class=\"textannotation disambiguated wl-no-link wl-other\" itemid=\"http:\/\/data.wordlift.io\/wl01770\/entity\/community\">community<\/span>. There are so many opportunities to learn, rather than just buying a book and sitting by yourself.<br \/>\nFor senior developers it\u2019s the other way around. We need to be more open to new ideas junior developers. I always hire someone better than me \u2013 I want to learn from them as well so I can move on and they can take over my <span id=\"urn:batch-analysis-294e5d38-fcf8-4a12-8270-30409ab4a75a\" class=\"textannotation disambiguated wl-no-link wl-other\" itemid=\"http:\/\/data.wordlift.io\/wl01770\/entity\/job\">job<\/span>.<\/p>\n<h2>What makes a conference attractive to you as a speaker?<\/h2>\n<p>I like the reaching out to people that I normally don\u2019t reach. Getting feedback on how people use things that I\u2019m producing or working with is a very important part for me. When people offer me money to speak I try instead to get them to offer free tickets to people who wouldn\u2019t otherwise go to the event. Making sure you give back to the <span id=\"urn:batch-analysis-dd20a475-5060-43d5-92a2-2bc6f7b43917\" class=\"textannotation disambiguated wl-no-link wl-other\" itemid=\"http:\/\/data.wordlift.io\/wl01770\/entity\/community\">community<\/span> is a very important thing.<\/p>\n<h2>What has been the biggest challenge you\u2019ve faced in your career?<\/h2>\n<p>I think the biggest challenge was actually going when I needed to. It\u2019s very common for developers to be in <span id=\"urn:batch-analysis-dc626bba-d65b-4589-ae7d-39b36e1d8548\" class=\"textannotation disambiguated wl-no-link wl-other\" itemid=\"http:\/\/data.wordlift.io\/wl01770\/entity\/ember_company\">companies<\/span> and be unhappy but stay. I\u2019ve been at <span id=\"urn:batch-analysis-d9d418dd-1ca6-4464-9f54-921877a48a9d\" class=\"textannotation disambiguated wl-no-link wl-other\" itemid=\"http:\/\/data.wordlift.io\/wl01770\/entity\/ember_company\">companies<\/span> and felt grumpy and unhappy and that\u2019s not productive to the rest of the <span id=\"urn:batch-analysis-3eab8884-b55b-4d59-988d-eeb0bbf4b8ec\" class=\"textannotation disambiguated wl-no-link wl-other\" itemid=\"http:\/\/data.wordlift.io\/wl01770\/entity\/ember_company\">company<\/span>. Someone else will come in with a fresh approach and be happy to do that <span id=\"urn:batch-analysis-58ad42c1-ed04-41fc-8ebd-e3e070c809b5\" class=\"textannotation disambiguated wl-no-link wl-other\" itemid=\"http:\/\/data.wordlift.io\/wl01770\/entity\/job\">job<\/span>.<\/p>\n<h2>What piece of advice would you give to a youngster who wants to become a developer?<\/h2>\n<p>Right now I would say the best thing is to look into <span id=\"urn:batch-analysis-2ee9c40b-f53d-4fb2-a353-0c3350be3d26\" class=\"textannotation disambiguated wl-no-link wl-other\" itemid=\"http:\/\/data.wordlift.io\/wl01770\/entity\/machine_learning\">machine learning<\/span>. <span id=\"urn:batch-analysis-3ef25797-3f6c-4205-ad22-e31a0d32be4b\" class=\"textannotation disambiguated wl-no-link wl-other\" itemid=\"http:\/\/data.wordlift.io\/wl01770\/entity\/machine_learning\">Machine learning<\/span> is the next big thing. Take online courses, be social and contribute to Open Source projects. Take advantage of all the free stuff that is out there \u2013 it\u2019s also the most up-to-date.<\/p>\n<p>Christian Heilmann will deliver the Keynote Session at <a href=\"https:\/\/berlin2018.codemotionworld.com\/\">Codemotion Berlin 2018<\/a>, talking about\u00a0\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/berlin2018.codemotionworld.com\/talk-detail?detail=8729\">Building human interfaces powered by AI<\/a>. Join us on November 20 to 21 to meet him in person!<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Christian Heilmann is a legend of the IT industry. After spending more than 20 years to make the web work and thrive at Yahoo, Mozilla and now in Microsoft, he is now considered one of the most influential technology advocates. He has written several books on JavaScript and the Developer Evangelism handbook. 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