{"id":57,"date":"2019-08-02T08:00:54","date_gmt":"2019-08-02T06:00:54","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.codemotion.com\/magazine\/interview-with-dave-farley\/"},"modified":"2020-01-31T11:15:15","modified_gmt":"2020-01-31T10:15:15","slug":"interview-with-dave-farley","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.codemotion.com\/magazine\/backend\/interview-with-dave-farley\/","title":{"rendered":"Interview with Dave Farley"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Dave Farley\u2019s not a politician. But he is best-known as the author of the <strong>Reactive Manifesto<\/strong>, published in 2014. Dave is still answering questions about the book many years later, which shows it remains relevant in these constantly evolving times.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cThe Reactive Manifesto been around for a surprising long time. Whether it\u2019s state-of-the-art \u2013 I think it\u2019s a <span id=\"urn:batch-analysis-c19735a5-8717-4d65-9a77-bc2ba639e414\" class=\"textannotation disambiguated wl-no-link wl-other\" itemid=\"http:\/\/data.wordlift.io\/wl01770\/entity\/state_of_the_art\">state-of-the-art<\/span>, I think that there are other flavours of software development that are probably viable. I\u2019ve got a suspicion that the Reactive Manifesto might become increasingly valid over time. And I think to some extent we\u2019re seeing an awful lot of people talking about events source systems CQRS patterns, these sorts of things that are all kind of within that style of computing.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>Now an independent software consultant, with a background as a <span id=\"urn:batch-analysis-b165b36a-835c-44cb-9830-22fe74e30c9b\" class=\"textannotation disambiguated wl-no-link wl-other\" itemid=\"http:\/\/data.wordlift.io\/wl01770\/entity\/software_developer\">software developer<\/span>, Dave has become increasingly concerned with the term \u201c<strong>engineer<\/strong>\u201d.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cLike many things, we\u2019ve tended to misuse the word engineer and when we talk about engineer we just mean somebody that\u2019s a <span id=\"urn:batch-analysis-5e4fd25c-ba9e-4fe1-a31a-1676a8082495\" class=\"textannotation disambiguated wl-no-link wl-other\" itemid=\"http:\/\/data.wordlift.io\/wl01770\/entity\/bit\">bit<\/span> technical and I think it\u2019s got a more precise definition than that. <span id=\"urn:batch-analysis-18608433-1085-45fb-8122-1d48e1913bb1\" class=\"textannotation disambiguated wl-no-link wl-other\" itemid=\"http:\/\/data.wordlift.io\/wl01770\/entity\/engineering\">Engineering<\/span> in other disciplines is something very specific, it means the application of scientific rational reasoning to solving practical problems within economic constraints. We should be looking for something like that to apply to software development.\u201d<\/p>\n<div style=\"width:100%;margin:0;padding:0;text-align:center;\">\nhttps:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/XJQNNT_E5jU<\/div>\n<p>And it is this particular bugbear of Dave\u2019s that he chose to focus on at the Codemotion conference.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cI think that there is something that should be software engineering, but we haven\u2019t really been doing that very much. Previous attempts to define what software engineering meant in the past have failed. My talk at the conference today is going to be on that theme, to try and talk a little <span id=\"urn:batch-analysis-bf70c423-93f4-4f91-b9b7-d127e57ed265\" class=\"textannotation disambiguated wl-no-link wl-other\" itemid=\"http:\/\/data.wordlift.io\/wl01770\/entity\/bit\">bit<\/span> about some practices that might be true in 100 years\u2019 time. People should think about what applying that scientific rational reasoning to software development would really mean.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>Another of Dave\u2019s other professional interests these days is continuous delivery: putting the customer\u2019s needs at the heart of an organisation, something he is passionate about achieving.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cMy <span id=\"urn:batch-analysis-c85504f9-b7b5-463e-af30-09fc698771ed\" class=\"textannotation disambiguated wl-no-link wl-other\" itemid=\"http:\/\/data.wordlift.io\/wl01770\/entity\/belief\">belief<\/span> about continuous delivery is that its real importance is as a process and as a set of technologies that support a process approach. What it gives you is an experimental platform that allows you to more quickly evaluate whether you\u2019re hitting customer need. 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